From: ibis-interconn-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of Mirmak, Michael [michael.mirmak@intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:26 AM To: ibis-interconn@freelists.org Subject: [ibis-interconn] IBIS Ad Hoc Interconnect Task Group Aug. 13 Minutes and Aug. 20 Reminder ====================================================================== IBIS INTERCONNECT MODELING AD HOC TASK GROUP MEETING AGENDA http://www.eda.org/ibis/adhoc/interconnect/ Mailing list: ibis-interconn@freelists.org ====================================================================== Next Meeting August 20, 2008 Telephone Bridge Passcode 916-356-2663 3 559-4982 (for international numbers, contact Michael Mirmak) LiveMeeting: Meeting ID: 9492d462fef741d3904ef993d9e16875 Entry Code: 12eq371k2 Location: meet:sip:michael.mirmak@intel.com;gruu;opaque=app:conf:focus:id:9492d462fef741d3904ef993d9e16875%3Fconf-key=12eq371k2 http://tinyurl.com/5gyjxd Agenda: - Call for patents - Opens - Review of SYZ mixed-mode examples/updates (V. Dmitriev-Zdorov) - Review of mixed-mode explanatory text (R. Biernacki) ====================================================================== Minutes from August 13: Attendees: ---------- (* denotes present) Agilent - Radek Biernacki*, John Moore, Ken Wong* Ansoft - Denis Soldo Cadence Design Systems - Terry Jernberg*, Brad Griffin Green Streak Programs - Lynne Green Hewlett-Packard - Rob Elliott Intel - Michael Mirmak* Mentor Graphics Corp. - John Angulo, Vladimir Dmitriev-Zdorov* Micron Technology - Randy Wolff* Sigrity - Sam Chitwood, Raymond Y. Chen, Tao Su, Brad Brim SiSoft - Walter Katz* Teraspeed Consulting Group - Bob Ross* ======================================================================== No patents were announced. The team reviewed Vladimir's mixed-mode conversion document. The initial section describes only 2x2 matrices but overall the document explains the concepts and step-by-step process for changing single-ended S, Y, Z parameters to mixed-mode and back again. Examples will be added of specific Y and Z parameter sets being converted. Radek suggested that the format of the final document may make presentation of the formulae difficult. Some notation changes may be needed, per comments from Bob. Vladimir noted that reference values are assumed to be the same across the Document, and that a common reference node was assumed. Radek will supply an introductory section to the mixed-mode portion of the document, with changes in language regarding "conventional" vs. single-ended or "standard" S-parameters. He suggested altering the comma-based notation elsewhere in the existing text. The team will review Vladimir's revisions to the mixed-mode conversion documents and Radek's introductory text in the next meeting. ======================================================================== Team Objectives: 1) complete ICM-IBIS linking BIRD and any associated changes to the ICM specification 2) update the ICM specification, if needed, to clarify the mapping of ICM nodes to S-parameter ports 3) complete a specification for "Touchstone Plus" or similar industry-standard definition for Touchstone-like files, to include complex impedance references, removal of limits on the maximum number of ports and per-port impedance references ------------------------------------------------------------------ The IBIS Ad Hoc Interconnect Task Group Mailing List Archives are available at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/ibis-interconn TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Send a message to "ibis-interconn-request@freelists.org" with a subject of "unsubscribe" To administer your subscription status from the web, visit: http://www.freelists.org/list/ibis-interconn